Thank you for your review of our service:-)
It's not so huge at the moment, only 85 000 adsense ids are in our base at april 15. But we constantly improving it and we are going to make a full index!
If you have any statistics for adsense id spreading in web - we can discuss this.

This site is a clone of ownerspy.com.

This should be good news for advertisers but I bet those churning out "adsense sites" might be crying the blues.

I agree Google's move should cut down on accidental clicks - a nice thing if you're paying for those accidents!

Bernie you're right on about using Glyphius for adword ads. With only a few characters to work with, you need to make every one count AND grab as many interested prospects as possible. Since Glyphius likes wordy titles - scoring high with tiny headlines is a feat - but worth the effort.

Cheers,

Chet

This is definitely major news. Minimizing the areas on which you can click will greatly reduce accidental clicks, as you say causing the value of the click to increase for the advertiser, but the person hosting the ads will reap a lesser income.

I often write ad copy for use in PPC campaigns and I've found a product that makes testing ads for profitability easier. The tool is Glyphius. It really saves time.

Stefan,

thanks much for this correction - sitting on the plane I was thinking just that - if I mixed up some names when typing that post in a big hurry :-)

thanks!
Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

Guess you mixed up some names and links there ;-)

It’s Andre and ADAM of Hitflip and Nico ZEIFANG (link here should also be corrected ;-)). Just a quick hint ;-) Besides that your post sounds like you had a blast, too bad I didn’t go.

The Juice Toolbar is a browser plugin that also allows to mass-evaluate urls, serps, sites as a whole (hence the excel download) ...

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

hi there,

please see comments here

http://www.marketingfan.com/search-engines/why-removed-supplemental-index-labels-are-good-my-business#comment-481

thanks,
Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

Please share with us how you automated that juice tool! I've never seen anyone with that before. Great writeup

Is that Juice Dead/Dupe a program or plugin? How can you tell which pages are what.

Interesting article on the whole.

Lorem Ipsum... dammit - that's way to go... it's obvious that Google cannot remove a page just because a server is down for some hours or even days (oh yeah - if you got the wrong hosting company that can happen

http://weblog.cemper.com/a/200701/19-50-hours-outage-admin-have-you-changed-something.php

I'll check into this and of course implement that cloaking script TODAY on my site at least as a countermeasure for those other 1000s of proxy sites out there

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

A couple notes, Christoph - I hit one of my sites through Proxydust and they pass the UA through just fine. I'd check your scripts if you're inspecting by user agent and they're getting through.

Another thing to try, since Google is slow to recrawl and remove existing entries even if you return 403 Forbidden - when you know it's a proxy, return about 500 words of "lorem ipsum, sic dolor sit amet..." and that way Googlebot will index this as the new content of that proxy URL.

It was worth a try ;^)

Dave, only one of the reasons to keep the tool internal is competitive advantage...

the second and even weightier reason is the resource usage that the scripts takes up - it's another 3 thru 3+N google scraper calls (depending on situation up to 10) that we need to make and hide behind a proxy network...

revealing that script to public would also require us to have a larger scale private proxy network ...

To illustrate, alone this tool needs about same number of calls as the "Page Strength" tool from SeoMoz (which in turn is quite primitive in it's logic compared to this and still fails many times and/or reports crap data - if viewed historically )

So unless I see a big business model behind this I can't go to the lengths to support that tool for public (at least in a sort-of-broken fashion as the SeoMoz PageStrength) but keep it for ourselves...

cheers
christoph

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

So... No download? Darn.
Please let me know if you make it public.

Dave.

hi Dave,

we really have that as a toolbar feature now, and found a lot more great things to let that tool do for us but that is an internal tool only (a little competitive advantage for us :-)

best,christoph

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

Hi Christoph,

You said... "I automated Jim's "Secret Supplemental Lookup Tutorial" into a nice browser toolbar plugin"

Where can I download it?

Thanks,
Dave.

"I'm not fixated on "my" pages, but "their" pages. ALL the pages that I buy or barter a link from (it's paid anyhow - either with $, EUR or plain hard work!) should NOT suffer from being supplemental reason for whatever."

Google clearly made it tougher for people to buy links with this change; obviously you don't want to be paying for a link on a supplemental page. From that standpoint, your plugin sounds like a sweet time-saver for your link samurais to make sure they're getting their money's worth.

"having an option to configure an url that returns the PR
would be great tough"

True. I wish I had the time to implement that. 2007 is whipping by too fast.

Just wanted to thank my lucky stars that Google is making it even tougher for SEO wannabes to scam their clients .. (I was in a meeting the other day with one of those .. he did not know what "anchor text" was .. let alone the mystery behind the supplental index)

I'm a programmer, and like Halfdeck, I enjoy hacking out techical ways to automate knowledge enhancing tidbits from Google, etc .. your sup results detector (and the suggested comments by Jim Boykin) gave me some new ideas .. thanks Christoph for this stimulating post ..

Hey Halfdeck,

having an option to configure an url that returns the PR
would be great tough

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com