blog tagging

and the sweet difference is that you don’t have to be afraid to break the chain because of some wild ancient curse, no loss of stamina or libido and no other crap that those mails usually threaten you with – it’s just a nice plug for social self-promo to tell people five things about you … a possible conversation started at the next conference… good stuff.

Two friends already tagged me from their posts

Dave Zuls the Hawaii SEO

and

Marcus Tandler aka MediaDonis (the Dancing Allstar SEO with a cool dance performance on German Tv and Greg Boser’s birthday )

So since I got tagged twice to my tech blog and my marketing blog and already got listed twice in SoloSeo’s tag tree I think I need to write 2 × 5 secrets plus select 2 × 5 people … let’s see if I can manage THAT

So here are

five things you didn’t know about me

1. I am into programming , a lot more into programming than reader’s of this blog, friends or clients from the online marketing world would expect … in fact I’ve been programming software for the last 20 years – and still do, just a bit different type of – more details here
2. I am studying marketing in a night university in Vienna … among tons of other projects I’m currently research on online Community User motivation – i.e. that plugs that are required to create a striving, organic online community … will do online surveys in a couple of famous webmaster related online communities/forums – stay tuned for an update on that
3. I really enjoy electronic music – you can call it Technoid, Raver, Geek, whatever… I started listeing to KOTO and Synth’s of Jean Michelle Jarre in the early 80ies when I was 12 or so – continued loving all those synth tunes that the C64 spit out and after additional influences of grunge and indie it came over me in a strong and already decade long techno, acid and house obsession… in fact I spent days and nights raving thru cities of germany, the LoveParade (when it was still good and original in Berlin in the 90ies) … today I really favor Progressive Trance and Goa, Paul Oakenfold style for home and some parties, while I prefer Progressive House when going out and dance…
4. I really enjoy dancing to funky house music at parties … especially when I had some good shots and beers – and some good friends arounds … at least those Euro House parties here in Vienna or Europe in general…
5. I really enjoy travelling for leisure and took a couple of great shots during my recent travels that you can find in this online community

Ok – enough for this post…

I’m tagging the following online marketing folks definately still missing in the blog tree

ladies first

1)

Becky Ryan AKA Webmoxy , previously at Bruce Clay, now with Trellian – very nice meeting her at Greg’s bday..

2)

Laura Lippay SEO Program Manager for Yahoo – met her in August/San Jose but didn’t see her around in Vegas… she actually stepped ahead and created a 7 reasons to an SEO at yahoo … yeah, you definately figured out how to create the most freaked out url for a blog post “dCEvf5I9erMfIZjmM54ajhgYAw–?cq=1&p=447″ and made Google index it even tough… well done

and now some german spammers (cough cough – online marketers) to continue the Euro line that Marcus started

3)

FridayNite this german blogger recently started that english blog I linked, and Marcus told me they live side by side .. so he must be just as cool as Marcus in fact Friday co-produces the SEOFM show – a german SEO podcast

4)

Frank Ristau who already visited me in Vienna last April with some other friends (and that was a nice party) … nice Adsense placement there in his blog

5)

Pascal Fantou AKA tiktok – very nice and experienced online marketer from Munich as well, met him last August and in Vegas again… funny thing is that we only met so far when flying intercontinental first, so I guess we need to schedule a meeting in Munich or Vienna soon – that’s just crazy …

Enjoy them here

some thumbs

With this command you can easily extract linkage data the search engines got that you cannot get easily in another way (unless of course you spider websites with your own robots, which some existing scripts and tools have to do …

First some thanks to Todd Marcus Aaron and Graywolf via the Threadwatch Community for pointing me to this feature some days ago – I definately forgot about posting about my ideas the last 2 days…

So – MSN LinkFromDomain – is this fancy new rocket science technology as one reader stated?

NO WAY … Search engines got the web index spidered already since their first introduction of link based algorithms… the novel thing is that MSN is revealing this additional information (in addition to the backlinks) to the public.

Now what’s that new command useful for?

Just some ideas off the top of my head – I found some others having similar ideas and will reference to them

1. Bad neighborhood linkage analysis

everybody’s talking bad neighborhood linking – but how can YOU really find out where-to a site is linking to? Spider all of the site’s pages and even take a look at all those small
footer links and maybe even hidden links that only SEngs see and furthermore check all the domains in Google, Yahoo, MSN ?

No more needed – linkfromdomain:site.com and you see where they link out to … of course in case of Google this can be quite a lot

“Russ Jones of Virante” already launched a quick tool already for finding banned sites – it checks the first 100 links in MSN for your site and tells you if they are indexed or NOT by google (an indication of banning). check it out ..

2. Hub analysis is old – do Authority analysis

SEOs look at common inbound link patters to pages the they suspect to be hubs, e.g. using Aarons Hubfinder (that I need to mirror BTW)

The problem: you first need those hub pages you suspect – and probably find them by looking up existing links to authority sites – which again you suspect them to be authorities

so what the HECK is an authority site

Similar to comparing similarities in inbound link patterns for ONE site, you can now go and compare the OUTBOUND link patterns for a couple of sites… and that tool could very easily list a grade of authority by counting how many top ranking sites link out to that found site

WHY would you do that?

WELL, linking out is crucial to your rankings as mentioned by many others – which means you want to find the authorities to link to – and a GOOD PART of the SEO community already knows, understands and DOES this …

So NOW all you have to do is apply a linkfromdomain command to a site and – well – filter the results… actually every corelation of these results with the results of other top ranking sites should give you a GREAT idea of what to look for… Aarons old tool – the hubfinder should be fairly easy to modify to use that

So if LINKING OUT is crucial to your rankings and finding the sites to link out to can be so easy now by having an “authority finder tool” is required (which still has to be developed, I guess Aaron AND/OR Jim are already working on it, especially as Jim already has a related forward link tool ) then the MSN LinkFromDomain command is the key element to it

Sidenote: Googles RELATED: operator gave you some ideas… until they crippled it some months ago – just like the backlink operator

Then looking at common inbound link patterns AND common outbound link patterns in an even more advanced tool will give you great ideas leading to real web graphs.

I’m amazed MSN is giving out so much info.

But then there are some flaws of missing data and even a suspicion of supplemental outbound link SERPs

3. FAST reciprocal link checker

well obviously recip link checking has become a lot easier – at least for that part of the web that MSN has indexed, spidered and is returning data for

You can use this in TWO ways

a) compare all inbound links vs matching outbound links for a domain

b) compare all inbound links vs matching outbound links for a page

So this last one only returns pages that marketingfan.com links out to, that are linking back to the homepage … you could do that with any other target page on your site (e.g. your hidden powerfull product selling page)

Russ again launched a reciprocal link percentage tool that calculates the percentage of reciprocating links for a domain… pretty interesting use

Flaws,Problems,Questions with LinkFromDomain

Some further observations of some linkfromdomain command limitations of the last days

• definately NOT the whole MSN index is retrievable via this command… I found a lot of sites that are ranking fine in MSN, got link pop data leading to PR4-7 in Google that returned NO single result in MSN

• the results seem to be geo-ip based, unless you add some locale-operator… e.g. if I look for Google’s outbound links then I get a ton of austrian sites (.at domain) linked from there… I assume the US guys start with .coms or US based sites

• there’s a suspicion of supplemental outbound link SERPs – meaning some filtered links that MSN won’t show you

• I am still trying to find out is – does it work with wildcards? – I mean some kind of keyword restrictions in those outbound link results

It would be great to have a command like
linkfromdomain:site.com *gambling*
this would be great to list all gambling sites a target site is linking to unless you are in gamling business you don’t want your link there, do you?

(YES: even if it IS a PR8 - who the heck cares about PR anyway???)

Anyway – Thank you MSN for this cool new operator!

PS: sidenote – MSN also got their new “search MACRO” feature that I missed until now… I think that’s one great thing I’ll have to look into next