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&lt;p&gt;Now when I was in New York City last month for the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SES&lt;/span&gt; I met, among a ton of other friends, partners and clients &amp;#8211; Avi, a New Yorkian &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; ... &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;And you know what&amp;#8217;s best about meeting good ole&amp;#8217; friends at those events? Yeah, meeting them, having booze and getting introduced to &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;THEIR&lt;/span&gt; friends&amp;#8230; it&amp;#8217;s about networking and actually the non-plus-ultra is if your friends actually do the &amp;#8220;elevator pitch&amp;#8221; for you, so all you have to do is stand there are smile, hand out some cards and then get back to those folks actually :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shimonsandler.com&quot;&gt;Shimon Sandler&lt;/a&gt; was introduced to me, and while I didn&amp;#8217;t recall the name I found that this is actually a really respected &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shimonsandler.com/?p=200&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; consultant&lt;/a&gt; in the scene &amp;#8230; well- in fact I read on his blog and a ton of this comments eg on Jim Boykin&amp;#8217;s link building blog. &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;One of Shimon&amp;#8217;s interesting posts on his blog is that Job-Definition of what an &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; actually does&amp;#8230; I love those posts (just like Todd/Stuntdubl also &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ALWAYS&lt;/span&gt; releases those posts where I just think &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RESOURCE&lt;/span&gt;... it&amp;#8217;s a &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;RESOURCE&lt;/span&gt;... man, it&amp;#8217;s great and I&amp;#8217;ll be back)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;You know when I look at Shimons definition of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shimonsandler.com/?p=200&quot;&gt;what an &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; consultant does&lt;/a&gt; I actually have to remind myself to finally revamp, rewrite and (hell) get rid of the typos in the copy of my own &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cemper.com&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; company site&lt;/a&gt; &amp;#8211; and yes sure &amp;#8211; I want to sync the content in AT &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LEAST&lt;/span&gt; two languages english and german, after all that&amp;#8217;s one of my USPs here&amp;#8230; and I even got some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marketingfan.com/a/domains/registering-country-domains-a-long-winding-road.php&quot;&gt;spain and italian domains&lt;/a&gt; for Cemper.Com as well last week &amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Shimons&amp;#8217; definition will serve me well as a blueprint, an information architecture for my new copy&amp;#8230; 16 points that describe the basis &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; process&amp;#8230; very nice..&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;and best of all, Shimon even gives away a &amp;#8220;standard proposal&amp;#8221; he sends out to his clients, including specifications for deliverables and &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;EVEN&lt;/span&gt; the charging model &amp;#8230; he starts with a retainer fee of $2000 for his services, that&amp;#8217;s 20 hours work &amp;#8230; but still charges what is above that.. I think that&amp;#8217;s pretty cool to buy&amp;#8230; after all that&amp;#8217;s just 4-5 hours a week &amp;#8230; half a day&amp;#8230; I bet he spends &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HALF&lt;/span&gt; of that already for communication and reporting on some clients&amp;#8230; &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;(hint hint hint to all clients and managers &amp;#8211; let your people work :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;What I&amp;#8217;m missing there is some detailled spec on WHAT/&lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;WHEN&lt;/span&gt; Shimon reports on his link building, link buys, etc&amp;#8230; my impression in general is that link building is a bit under-sized in the whole post &amp;#8211; after all &lt;b&gt;links are 95% of the game&lt;/b&gt;, once you made sure in the first month that the site-structure and content does not suck as it usually does in the beginning when an &amp;#8220;agency&amp;#8221; created that nice &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ALL-FLASH&lt;/span&gt; loaded site&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;But where do these clients come from? ... hehe.. Shimon is a nice guy&amp;#8230; giving away a &amp;#8220;sales blueprint&amp;#8221; with some sort of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shimonsandler.com/?p=271&quot;&gt;checklists to ask prospective clients&lt;/a&gt; is definately worth a read&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;The &amp;#8220;questions for &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; clients&amp;#8221; are even a bit sophisticated&amp;#8230; assuming you &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;KNOW&lt;/span&gt; you have an &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; client&amp;#8230; you know which question saved me &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;HUNDREDS&lt;/span&gt; OF &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;WASTED&lt;/span&gt; hours over the last 3 years?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div class=&quot;bb-quote&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;christoph to a prospective &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SEO&lt;/span&gt; client that calls him up wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Nice site you got, promoting all your products, services, etc. blabla&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So &amp;#8211; what would it do in the bottom line for your business when you get from &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NOWHERE&lt;/span&gt; to number1 in Google? do you know much you actually make per sale? and how much can you spend to increase the number of sales?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Oh &amp;#8211; you don&amp;#8217;t know?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Frankly, I met/got called up by so many folks  that do &amp;#8220;internet marketing&amp;#8221; just for some sort of &amp;#8220;branding value&amp;#8221; or their ego to be up in ranks that they have NO &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;CLUE&lt;/span&gt; if they can spend 1000, 10,000 or 100,000 &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;EUR&lt;/span&gt; per time interval&amp;#8230; well &amp;#8211; that&amp;#8217;s where I usually end the call&amp;#8230; sorry &amp;#8211; but people that got no idea on their spends usually have no idea on their goals, or just don&amp;#8217;t care&amp;#8230; neither of these is a reason to do business&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;But anyway, you know it&amp;#8217;s &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;REALLY&lt;/span&gt; funny &amp;#8211; bumping into friends on conferences is one thing, but getting to know the next &amp;#8220;indirection&amp;#8221; of the network just by chance is in fact the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;MAJOR&lt;/span&gt; reason for me to go to these conferences and to to spend $350+ a night for that sneazy little room in the hilton&amp;#8230; Staying as close as possible to the even gives you those extra 15 minutes AT &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;LEAST&lt;/span&gt; twice a day where you can meet up with a lot more people that if you would stay &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;ANYWHERE&lt;/span&gt;... &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Too bad I&amp;#8217;ll miss out on the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SMX&lt;/span&gt; in June and the &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SES&lt;/span&gt; In August &amp;#8211; but I&amp;#8217;ll then have my studies and master&amp;#8217;s finished (be sure to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marketingfan.com/a/communities/how-to-win-4-500-in-text-link-ads-and-presell-pages.php&quot;&gt;checkout the online survey&lt;/a&gt; !)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;After this bit longer break I&amp;#8217;ll do these&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;- DrupalCon in Barcelona (September) &amp;#8211; &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;NICE&lt;/span&gt; weather :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;- &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SMX&lt;/span&gt; social media special (October) in New York City again, &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;YEAH&lt;/span&gt; &amp;#8211; rocks&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;- &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;WMW&lt;/span&gt; in Las Vegas (the classic in November) &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;and then maybe even some &lt;span class=&quot;caps&quot;&gt;SES&lt;/span&gt; in chicago&amp;#8230; or I might just hang out with my friends there&amp;#8230; not sure&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Then I&amp;#8217;ll sing &amp;#8211; &amp;#8220;I just can&amp;#8217;t get enough&amp;#8230;&amp;#8221; :-D&lt;/p&gt;
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