What my tool does isn’t really to “detect” supplemental results – site:domain.com/* or site:domain.com/& does that for ya – instead, its a PageRank distribution manipulation tool. By shifting PageRank, you can practically prevent key landing pages (e.g. pages with paid links) from falling out of the main index.

thanks for your valuable feedback – I just tried the & trick and it seems to work well – need to update my toolbars to include that count.

I agree that your tool is not only a supplemental detector as you accidentially named it. “Pagerank simulator” is the name you want to give it and I enjoyed playing with it yesterday still.

It’s fantastic to see how pagerank is spread across the site and in fact I already poked around with the robots.txt file of this blog to get rid of some useless pages and archives… (funny tough how the public opinion shifted from “PR doesn’t matter” back to “PR preservation” is everything)

However – I enjoyed your posts on the topic (as well as that mega-resource supplemental trick page) and value your feedback

Halfdeck, what’s missing in your fab tool is a live-query for the “TBPR” pagerank, as I think typing in the PR by hand to feed the simulator just sucks

in fact I think that by bulk-querying the PR for all pages you should even be able to detect anomalies between the “should be PR” and the real TBPR – aka try to detect patterns that indicate a penalty (for whatever reason)

What I would wish for that is
a) multi-proxy support if you implement the PR query yourself

b) just an option to let the user provide a custom url to call up for getting an URLs TBPR (and let me use my own proxy infrastructure for that)

that could be something like

http://mydomain.com/googlepr.php?url=$url$

so similar – get the idea?

Cheers!

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

>figuring out which of their pages are supplemental.

I’m not fixated on “my” pages, but “their” pages. ALL the pages that I buy or barter a link from (it’s paid anyhow – either with $, EUR or plain hard work!) should NOT suffer from being supplemental reason for whatever.

The point of my post is, that I automated Jim’s “Secret Supplemental Lookup Tutorial” into a nice browser toolbar plugin where ALL of my link samurai team members (the “Link Arbeiter” can easily see that status – and focus on the creative part of link building without wasting time on this issue as maybe others will.

cheers!

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

Yeah, I named it “supplemental results detector” for SEO reasons The url “pagerankbot” tells it more like it is.

“Halfdeck, what’s missing in your fab tool is a live-query for the “TBPR” pagerank, as I think typing in the PR by hand to feed the simulator just sucks”

I agree completely – it’s a pain in the ass. I thought about automating that and supp detection via proxies, but I only had limited time for the project – 1 week to learn Java and 1-2 weeks to code it, so I had to make some sacrifices. Though I’m out of time, I might just post the source code and let other people hack it.

The TBPR you type in doesn’t get crunched by the tool. It’s just a way for you to keep track of them so you can compare them with the “Approximate TBPR” numbers. So to me the feature wasn’t all that important. I just used it to tweak the algo that translated raw PageRank numbers into TBPR.

I remember Link Moses talking on Search Engine Land about a in-house tool that mines competitor backlinks. I agree that an SEO either needs a good team of SEOs to work with or a collection of good tools (preferably both). Even if someone pays me $400 an hour, I don’t enjoy spending 10 minutes mining backlinks via Yahoo Site Explorer, which is not only slow but inaccurate.

having an option to configure an url that returns the PR
would be great tough

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com

I’m a programmer, and like Halfdeck, I enjoy hacking out techical ways to automate knowledge enhancing tidbits from Google, etc .. your sup results detector (and the suggested comments by Jim Boykin) gave me some new ideas .. thanks Christoph for this stimulating post ..

Google clearly made it tougher for people to buy links with this change; obviously you don’t want to be paying for a link on a supplemental page. From that standpoint, your plugin sounds like a sweet time-saver for your link samurais to make sure they’re getting their money’s worth.

“having an option to configure an url that returns the PR
would be great tough”

True. I wish I had the time to implement that. 2007 is whipping by too fast.

You said… “I automated Jim’s “Secret Supplemental Lookup Tutorial” into a nice browser toolbar plugin”

Where can I download it?

Thanks,
Dave.

we really have that as a toolbar feature now, and found a lot more great things to let that tool do for us but that is an internal tool only (a little competitive advantage for us

best,christoph

Christoph C. Cemper
- the http://www.marketingfan.com